White men and women who married Cherokees are then considered to be a member of the tribe. Carie Adkins Westbrookcariewestbrook@live.com, Hi my name is Quatsie Brim I'm 22, born in Oklahoma and I know that from my family history and my family members that I have a strong connection with this group of Cherokees in this page. there are more but this seems like the most likely common to be used, and its what you mentioned as well. clayjackie@bellsouth.net Jackie Owen Perry on face book, There is zero proof that "Moytoy" had any descendants. I believe William should be detached from Wurteh. )Timothy Carl Jones(Adopted Legal Name). Blending a great . She serves as a night anchor of the 360 Perspective on KOAA. I did not even know that we were related to the Cherokee, so this has been very exciting! Yet, I have seen people with as little as 1/500th blood quantum who inspire the spirits of their ancestors because they make being Cherokee a proud part of a their everyday life.". DNA will not do you any good, given the fact that several members who registered with the Dawes Commission were White, of various European origins, some were Black, former African American slaves, who came to be known as the Freedmen, identified as member by marriage or adopted into the nation. Robert Due, the Indian Trader -or- the son of Robert Due and some other Cherokee woman. Territory-era (1940s-1980s) This section lists notable professional wrestling promoters during the "Golden Age of Professional Wrestling" following the creation of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) in 1948.While most promoters operated specific wrestling "territories" as members of the NWA, a number of so-called "outlaw" promotions were also prominent during this period. is there a free place to search dawes rolls? Elizabeth Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee passed away on 1795 in St Joseph River, Crow Creek Settlement, Arkansas. James Vann was shot and killed in 1809 by his former friend Saunders for another reason. That would be part English. What better job than working with the Indians. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). James Vann somehow managed to acquire numerous ferries and steamboats, vast acreage of lands, and over 100 slaves. I found on one person's tree in Ancestry.com that Phaerba Ammons was daughter of Phoebe Eseentrino which was daughter of Rebecca C Indian, daughter of Great Eagle can annyone confirm this or say it is not true can't find any information. Combien gagne t il d argent ? Deborah Whaley and Elizabeth Foreman. Evans, E. Raymond. The bio says , William Dorton Sr. became a man of local prominence, and a captain of the Russell Co. My daughter will be interested in your info. The average lot size on Woods Rd is 15,499 ft2 and the average property tax is $868.7/yr. We need to connectI would love to talk with you. (, https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31, the marriage of Wurteh to Bloody Fellow is speculative but plausible.. The bio says William Dorton Sr. became a man of local prominence, and a captain of the Russell Co. I know that I am named after my great grandmother whos maiden name was Quatsie Catherine Copeland..and her father or my great great grandfather, was James Riley Copeland and I know he was a great leader in Oklahoma and was sought after for legal advice. Find others researching your family tree. TM,Have you learned anything new re: Black Fox, Attakullakulla, Moytoy, and Thomas Pasmere Carpenter? This is so sad. Malachi is the son of Robert Parris and Penny Langley. i am james barry stricklin of savannah,tn and i am a desendant of cheif moytoy and granny hopper through thomas essary to minnie essary ,but i nee help with this please send an e-mail to hardinco2000@yahoo.com and tell me how im kin. My 5th great grandmother was Robin Joyce Moytoy " Raven" daugther of Chief Standing Turkey Moytoy Most beloved of the Cherokees Boen in 1704. in TN. Watts moved with the band downriver to Running Water Town, still in Tennessee but further from the frontier. I was only four years old when my parents came to the Indian Territory and I am now ninety-three years old. Hello, I too am descended from Moytoy then down through Nancy Wardto Nancy Dial. . I believe that could be possible. John Jolly had a white father, possibly Robert Due, and a Cherokee mother but nothing else is known of his parents. I am related to Chief Moytoy on my mothers side. says that he was born in Virginia, moved to North Carolina with his mother, and in May, 1785 at the age of 16 or 17 was forced to serve in the War by a step-father named Fielder. My gggg grandfather is Old Hop-Standing Turkey- Kanagatuckco. I love this quote fromJim Pell: Principal Chief of the North Alabama Cherokee Tribe "There is no such thing as 'part-Cherokee.' So I guess we are running into some "cousins" here. She died in 1814, in Cherokee, Choctaw, Alabama, United States, at the age of 63. I came across the name Ga Ho Ga, who was born about 1730 in Deer, Newton County, Arkansas and died about 1790 in Rome, Floyd County, Georgia. Amazed (not really) at the numbers of people who post but have no clue about the lack of documentation for Moytoy (more than one alleged) and any possible documented living descendants. Her son James (Chief) is my 3x-gfa. Watts. His name was Jace Maxfield. cherokee limestone mesquite washington stafford bastrop harker heights aledo celina elgin wimberley lake dallas tyler . Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. I am related through Nanya'hi and her line. And all the deuce dents on both Sides the McGees and Vann was denided clames. Bluesky's father was Shawnee Chief Cornstalk. So--we are related? There is some circumstantial evidence that he was the father of John Jolly. Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? It is incredible that all this is actually documented. Born in Cherokee Nation East, Willstown, Jackson, AL on 1752 to Grey Eagle Willeeneewa and Kayhun Keyhum Techea. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. I just found out that I am part of this family! His user name on Ancestry.com was Tahlequah. The following students who have a grade point average of 3.8 to 4.0 were recognized: Reference URL Share . Well, let me queue the laughter. Soldier Sixkiller. thanks,Pam Treu pamtreu@gmail.com, Who was your Mother and her father? some were shawnee married in to cherokee, some were pamunkey/ powhatan dwindling down into cherokee.chief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me)if any of you have become recognized using any of these names, please share with me on how you did so as I have come to a brick wall. (https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31) Hicks attempted to group people who were known to be relatives into families. You will be hearing from my Attorney forthwith.Furthermore, Thomas Carpenter did not descend from the Ancient European families Cited on Your BOGUS Website, which his family of Plymouth Devonshire Family did not orginate Europe.The following Quote Was STOLEN From http://dauglaku.com by wannabe Shawnee Liar Don Greene author of Shanee Heritage et al in 2003 which, was and still is a Formal Copyright Registered Trademark Website in Early 2003.The Carpenter family of Devonshire & Plymouth England were small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. I started to check out my matches and my second cousins on GEDMATCH. I am so glad I have found this! If you were an Anonymous give me the time and date and I will be glad to remove it. Lt. L.B. I have been trying to find the father & mother of Elizabeth Booker or Harris 1733-1800 wife of Philemon Bradford Jr. Of course the father & mother I keep finding on Ancestry is this George Booker and Agatagwi "captured Cherokee women" I'd love to hear any ideas or tips. The one is Oklahoma is closed to new members (How can a nation be closed to legitimate members of the nation? Is that a separate enrollment? She was the sister of John Watts, Cherokee Chief, also known as "Young Tassel". obviously I can only go by information in others trees. Im now wanting to enroll. Documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the Carpenter family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. Daliah Wachs, MD, FAAFP. Later they moved to Willstown, in what is now Alabama. This comment has been removed by the author. I've heard only sketchy tales of being related to Attacullaculla (mostly because my father's parents died when he was young so he didn't get much family history passed down to him.) Just asking! Su-gi was Shawnee/Cherokee. I am a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. His research is very extensive and was/is on point with the information that was given to me. I have traced my grandmother Claudia peddycoart to Elizabeth Ravin hop moytoy. Webster, who accompanied the Cherokee along part . I AM TOO. Hope this helps. Elizabeth. Wurteh Elizabeth Watts was born in 1750, at birth place, Alabama, to Trader John Capt. More About BEULAH F TUCKER:1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3855, roll# 9297Blood: 1/32 Cherokee, Sheila, If still around the board here, I'd enjoy corresponding with you and tapping your knowledge on William D. and Grasshopper McDaniel and their children. Surnames Bertholf, Riley, Priber. Wurteh Elizabeth Watts passed away on 1814 in Cherokee, Alabama, USA. I am very proud of being part Cherokee when I was told I had Indian blood I started researching and keep coming up with only partial info and everyone says don't bother its not worth trying to get recognized with a tribe. Each marriage was consummated under the Cherokee laws. cobb loeschman elizabeth cook katrina daffron-baker kimberly j delhomme kristina finley descant lisa i pantego . The DNA test do not show tribe. So DNA isn't going to tell you if you're Indian or not. Cornblossom's descendants, through Katie Troxell, led to my East Tennesseean ancestors--Blevins and Buttram. I am also a descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. Hi I am descendant of Chief Moytoy. I'm a descendant through Moytoy, Doublehead, Colbert, Tharp, etc. Judyann Kelley Townsend Billy Gene Kelley your father Susie Marie Kelley his mother Viola Ellsworth roberts her mother Violetta Elizabeth Clubb her mother John Thomas Brown her father Isham "Isom" Alexander Brown his father Isham Alexander "Cherokee Chief Sawney" Brown his father Naky ( Sarah Canoe ) Betesy Brown his mother Tai Ya Gansi Ni (Ts-yu-gns-n) Dragging Dragging Canoe" (Tatsi), Principal Chief Tatsi her father Attakullakulla (Little Carpenter) Onacona his father Amatoya Moytoy his father. I had heard family rumors that we were descended from Fork Tail WATTS. Can you please tell me, was Amatoya Moytoy Chief Doublehead's grandfather? Although Watts withdrew from the Overhill Towns along with Dragging Canoe's band, at first he was minimally involved in the raiding they made against American settlers during and after the Revolutionary War. They remained "full-blood" unless they remarried outside the Nation, in which case they were considered to revert or relinquish their blood-tie vow. Rodney Willett (D-Henrico) Del. Chief Doublehead was my partner's 6 great grandfather and his daughter Cornblossom my partner's 5th great grandmother. We are from Texas.My mother had a olive complexion was small stature, quite person and she always told us she was indianBut she didn't know how.Ancestry.com The history is outstanding.I am very proud to be of indian desent. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. Layla.bug1284@gmail.com, Osiyo Cousin. Sharon, I am doing our family research into a line that I believe intersects with the one you are writing about here. We share the same 9th grandfather. We already know who our relatives are. I am a descendant of Miss Amatoya Taminad-Trader Kanagaota Motoy and Chief Amahetia 'll Moytoy of Tellico. Tail Sixkiller. Elizabeth worked as a news anchor and reporter for KOAA News5 from August 2016 to July 23, 2021. while there, she received quite a fulfilling amount. Can you please share with me the sources you are using to back the data on your Moytoy I? As my Great grandmother had Irish Parents who came to Liverpool, England at the time of the Famine. Cornblossum moved among the people and trade towns.the largest cherokee trade town was in what is now kentuckynorth of present tn and ky border. I do wish to obtain the desired info on these afore-named ancestors coming from 100% qualified and fully verifiable sources. He was succeeded by Doublehead. brother of Talonteskee, born about 1770. Your help would be treasured.Carol, I am also a descendent of Moytoy. Thanks, William David McDaniel is one of my great grandfathers.email me with your information at cymayes46@gmail.com. It is fantastic to know your culture. The application is pretty specific. 578 posts. SOOKIE SUSANNAH Su'Gi "GRASSHOPPER" Moytoy is my 5th great grandmother on the opposite side of my family. I just discovered from ancestry.com that I am also a direct descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. I'm a descendent of Gosaduisga and have seen some conflicting info, but your research has been insightful. However, after the settlers had walked out, Doublehead's group and his Muscogee allies attacked and killed them. If you will send me your email address I will send you a copy of the card as it is seen on Ancestry.Com. V. Adams->Wiley Vaughn Adams & Eugenia Olive Adams->Polly Vann (born Terrapin), John Cherokee Oowanee Vann, John Interpreter Vann, John Trader Vann. If you could send my a message on my face book page or an email I would appreciate it. There is no document that connects them at any time. There they rebuilt a replica of his Georgia Mansion for him.It's often said that Cherokee owned slaves but the truth is it was really only the Vann, Ross, Watts, Ridge, and a couple other families who owned all of the slaves. Moytoy II Emperor of the Cherokees.I'm extremely interested in finding others who are descendants to Moytoy IIemail wsxr1 at yahoo dot com. And they were born before registration so difficult. He intended to attack Knoxville. My information shows: Nancy Ward -- Tame Doe Raven -- Nancy Moytoy -- Chief Amatoya Moytoy. Elizabeth was Cherokee. Discover your family history in millions of family trees and more than a billion birth, marriage, death, census, and military records. I have seen you on my tree links for years. In fact, they were not allowed to be deeded land if Indian or Mixed Blood, or in Virginia, Black (all those of Indian and Mixed blood during one disgraceful era in the commonwealth's history). John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. I am 63 and just recently learned that my mother's grt,grt,grt grandmother was Mary Ann Black, daughter of Black Fox and that making us descendents of Attakullakulla and Moytoy. This was the third phase of the "Cherokee removal" to lands in the West. I'm so late to the game here, but my maiden last name is Essary (I'm the grand daughter of Ernest Essary) and I too am descended from Amatoya, kanagatoga and Sugi. So no way to try to connect him to anything true or untrue. I've found so much information on his descendants, just not his ancestors! I just did DNA and found out through matches and family tree that Im related to Moytoy. It is my humble opinion that they were wrong. Wurteh Elizabeth Watts was born in 1751, in Cherokee, North Carolina, United States as the daughter of John Old Fork Tongue Watts. I am surprised that so many people are so negative. how was attacullaculla and kanastoga both grandfathers of Major ridge andGeneral Stand Watie, Amatoya Moytoy is your 9th great grandfather. As someone also doing research, I find your story quite interesting. Watts, Elizabeth. jcjackson1968@gmail.com, I have been researching this part of my family for yearsit is truly fascinating to make these discoveries.I am related to this line through Morning Kimborogh whose mother was from a tribe in Surry Virgina in 1668 and whose father was Soloman John Kimborogh.Soloman John's Father was a Fivekiller and Son of Trader Amatoya and Quatsy Tellico.I would love to find more out about Morning Kimboroghs mothers family.She married a William Little that I believe was also of mixed decent.Any ideas of where I could research further?bastante.mavis@yahoo.com, Mavis, I have also been looking at my family tree! She died in 1780, in Tennessee, United States, at the age of 25. I can be reached at bradyfigueroa@hotmail.com. In Memory of William Dorton (Capt. My name is June Hicks-Kilpatrick and my paternal grandmother, Mertie Parris' 5th great-grandfather was George Parris, who was the son of Richard Pearis and Pratchey. Doublehead argued for the former, while James Vann advocated the latter. How? It's wonderful to actually see this. Grasshoppers name was Susan. Lucy Benge Lowrey: Lucy is usually described as the sister of Bob Benge and is commonly listed with Wurteh as her mother. Original source documentation trumps BS posted online by wanabes and armchair researchers chasing CDIB cards through fictitious Cherokee Princesses. Daughter of Wilson Miller, a Muskogee (Creek) and Nancy Toney, a Cherokee. Elizabeth Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee passed away on 1795 in St Joseph River, Crow Creek Settlement, Arkansas. They or you certainly do not have to be full blood Cherokees. The English did not keep records of Cherokee - White marriages and they were not allowed to marry in any formal church of the Colonial period. Fred Fuchs: I am wondering if Ernest Essary might be my great uncle. I would think that would be a HUGE fraud on the Ancestry.Com people, Thank you so much. At such an early time, it would have been expected. Here's my direct-lineage proving ancestry.Direct Famial Lineage: Cleopatra Powhatan1590-1641Mother of -> Pride Shawnee1615-1679Mother of -> Amatoya Moytoy1640-1730Father of -> Old Hop Moytoy1690-1761Father of -> Sookie Granny Grasshopper1730-1820Mother of -> Rachel Tookah McDaniel1763-1792Mother of -> Rachel Agnes Tookah Chambers1781-1846Mother of -> William Simon Roland "Billy" Norris1816-1892Father of -> John Roland Norris1853-1903Father of -> James "Jim" Roland Norris1883-1930Father of -> Lucy Jane Norris1908-1986Mother of -> John Earl "Johnny" Jones1945-1978Father of -> Timothy Lavon Mitchell - Jones(Given Name at Birth. -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoy********su-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperMARY MCDANIELWILLIAM MCDANIEL********anuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me). They captured and burned Gillespie's Station, killing its defenders and taking several prisoners. 4752 Cherokee Rd Jonesborough TN 37659 5973 Kingsport Hwy Johnson City TN 37615 5973 Kingsport Hwy Gray TN 37615 5751 Kingsport Hwy Gray TN 37615 103 Bumpus . To embed this object, paste this HTML in website. 3. Very interesting info! Sa fortune s lve 10 000,00 euros mensuels My Grand daughter who is 7, Is very interested an wanted me to look up a few. Sharon, I believe the way you do. The emigrants who established our first colonies had a tough go. Due was a white trader who had a daughter named Jennie with a Cherokee woman named Elizabeth Emory. Chief Moytoy of Tellico 1687 - 1741 My 8g Grand U A Indian Trail From Amatoya Moytoy to My Mother. Through these weekly appearances and her extensive experience hosting Infomercials, she has honed her craft in the exciting world of Live Television and Direct Response. 1 1 1 2 5 3 1 4 1 5: Nancy Ann Ivey. Circumstantial evidence supports this marriage. !I am LowreyMajor George Lowrey & Lucy Benge are where my family take off begins where we are relatedOh how our ancestors would love to know we are all here, that they are here in usShelly in California. James Vann, William Springston, John Shepherd and Edward Adair: . recovering TV News Anchor Of the . I have over 140 names associated with the dawes and guion miller rolls but none of which have proven beneficial due to the 7 years of enrollment and residence in ok at the time rule. Elizabeth Watts Schrack. I have arched on ancestry.com that links it all. If this is correct great, but I'd rather have correct information to pass down to my children instead of "made up" fancy notions. Follow. Watts became particularly active in the fighting after frontiersmen murdered his uncle, Old Tassel Carpenter 1708-1788, in 1788, while he traveled with Cherokee delegates to a peace conference. Alie Keath. It seems on this website, White Owl Raven (Nanyehi's father) may have a cloudy recorded history. How they were excluded from the Nation because they were black? I hate all the arguing on here. As mentioned earlier the Dawes Rolls are available on the internet. John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. I am 71 years old and have DOCUMENTED PROOF of my Cherokee ancestry that goes back to the 1700s. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. Dave C Essary,his son,and Sarah Carter Essary reared my grandmother Minnie Malone (Essary), IN MY RECORDS SHE IS MARRIED T WILLIAM MCDANIEL DAUGHTER MARY MCDANIEL FATHER KANA-GATOGAWAS ESSARY FROM ANOTHER MARRIAGE? Who are those in your direct Vann line back to her? Help us find our relatives and know what being Cherokee means. **Also known as Sally, Sookie, and Granny Hopper. Old Hop went to live with his Aunt and Uncle Amatoya Moytoy after the death of his parents. My family has known for some time and have searched to find our ancestors. My name is William Ray Allison, Jr. My dad's mother, Cora Waters, was enrolled in the Dawes Roll as was her mother, Maudie Condreay Waters, her mother, Barbara Allie Palone Condreay, and her mother, Mary Parris Palone. Wahunsonocock is better known as Chief Powhatan. william r kirkland(part shawnee)I am proud of my new found heritage. Does anyone know the name of trader Jim, big Jim,White green's mother shawano woman's father was? He died in 1804, in Tennessee, United States, at the age of 56. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. Maybe he did and she had already fallen in love with George Booker. Redbird Sixkiller. Hey Mae West,Yes Amatoya Moytoy was his grandfather. The family that began with Joseph Vann, a Sephardic Jewish translator working with Richard Henderson, Colonel John Sevier, and Daniel Boone at the Treaty of Sycamore Shoals in 1775 when Cheucunsene declared war on them as rogues. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. See Who Was Among the Southern Indians, a Genealogical Notebook , 1698-1907, by Don Martini: Page 691: Watts, John - Cherokee Trader, lived at Ninety-Six, South Carolina in 1751. He planned to lead a campaign into the Cumberland region of Appalachia. Hi Jackie. Please correct me if I'm wrong.I think many people, especially those that aren't citizens, like the notion of being related to a "chief" in an "indian tribe" as a romantic idea, and what I'm really after is "the truth" about my lineage. Hit me up if you have any info on this line. The same Joseph Vann who was sent in for the Transylvania Land Company by the Virginia banking firm of Isaiah Isaacs and Jacob Cohen to help illegally purchase Kentucky. Or any of his descendants? The council signed the Treaty of Tellico Blockhouse in November, officially ending hostilities with the US. I have that she was of the Deer Clan and that she married John Phillip Lightfoot {1725-1780}. Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. All DOCUMENTED Cherokee. Many researchers believe Parker Adkins only had 2 children with Bluesky, Littleberry and Charity. News personality. So, a few generations later, they actually saw the bonds as ones of family [which is the truth]. 1,645 followers. Elizabeth Watts Age. The peace party included Bob McLemore, Tahlonteeskee, Captain Charley of Running Water, and Doublehead, as well as the white delegates. DNA test results DO NOT EVER prove even a tribe, much less descendancy from Moytoy. Pam chatty_devine@yahoo.com, I believe I am 11th generation descendent of Chief Moytoy. Can any one confirm, deny, or suggest research that Mary Bluesky Cornstalk only had two children? Am I reading this history correct? Elizabeth Watts is an American Journalist currently working for KOAA News5 in Southern Colorado, as an anchor and reporter. According to my information. Remember to check the name spelling and include any additional information you have. Born in Cherokee Nation East, Willstown, Jackson, AL on 1752 to Grey Eagle Willeeneewa and Kayhun Keyhum Techea. Does this mean that if I had a great-uncle that signed Dawes, I can apply to be a part of the Western Cherokee nation? Yes, the Vanns held slaves, and it wasn't only four or five Cherokee families who did so. We are, at the least, distantly related. . I'm a descendent of Lucy ward which was in line for queen. Sally Watts Haithman Query: . Watts intervened and saved another young boy, handing him to Vann, who put the boy behind him on his horse and later handed him over to three of the Muscogee for safe-keeping. jeudi 8 novembre 1979, Journaux, Ottawa :[Le droit],1913- . She graduated in 2005 with distinction . Even the Troxel(sp?) Not the same person. It shows him as 26 years old and his family card shows what I would guess is his wife and 3 children (a set of twins and another child). Kharma, maybe. But, that is a whole other story as it turned out to be Choctaw. Wow I love you, thank you,and would you give me more insight of my relatives the Moytoy , from Nikitie father and mother and any brothers and sisters showing any proof of Moytoy children, please I just want insight and see of any proof , thank youMy email is starrbellababby@yahoo.com, Not only are you a historical revisionist, but also a typical yoneg NDN wannabe spewing delusional lies. Watts responded by invading the Holston area with more than 1,000 Cherokee, Muscogee, and Shawnee warriors, one of the largest Indian forces seen in the region. Circumstantial evidence supports this marriage. My father's family can be tranced back to Maryland and in documents it said that one of the sons had married an Indian woman and I didn't think anything about it at the time until I saw the leaf on Prudence which opened up all the records showing she was a full Cherokee Indian and her father and so on. Oh my goodness! I had wondered as an Engish man how I could have inherited Native American DNA. I can see why but I totally look Indian and am Cherokee, Choctaw, Shawnee. They had four children, 3 boys and a girl. He is my 12th great grandfather and "Pocahontas" is my 11th great grandmother. 1847, in DeSota County, Mississippi. Benge Fielder. Grateful for all posts and terribly fascinated by their contents. Hello,Sorry you spent so much time Copying and Pasting My Formally Copyrighted Work, published in LEGEND OF THE WOLF, ISBN Formally Registered Globally, which Proves You a Plagarist Guilty of Formal Copyright Infringement. Malachi was born in 1813 in Georgia and died in 1864 in Cane Hill, Arkansas. Mitochondrial DNA from a direct descendant of Charity Adkins shows that Charity's mother was a white woman - mostly English and Irish - not native American. Elizabeth Watts Net Worth. Because I have and so have other elders who I know. Watts spurned any "national office." Watts signed the 1791 Treaty of Holston, along with fellow war leaders: Doublehead, Bloody Fellow, Black Fox (a future chief of the Cherokee Nation), The Badger (Dragging Canoe's brother), and Rising Fawn. My new found heritage andGeneral Stand Watie, Amatoya Moytoy as her mother is an Journalist... Very exciting kentuckynorth of present tn and ky border argued for the former, while Vann... 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